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This morning, a 30 minute documentary (sort of) on The Chalet School books by Elinor M. Brent Dyer aired on Radio 4! I have just listened to it and it was WONDERFUL. They had all these quiz questions in between and I actually got quite a few of them right. GO ME.

Because of those books I grew up yearning to go to the Austrian Tyrol and greet everyone I met by saying "Gruss Gott" - as every good chalet girl did (I later did this when I was 12) and eat 'mittagessen' and use the splasheries and have crazy adventures in the mountains. In reality, I would have hated boarding school, but not if it was the Chalet School <3

There were 58 books written and I think I've read all of them, well all of them I could get from my local libraries and charity shops.

Anyway, here it is on Listen Again if anyone is interested. It's a very funny and affectionate documentary presented by the crime novelist Val McDermid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b014pzzs

Date: 2011-09-20 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jelazakazone.livejournal.com
Drat. These looked like they might be right up DD1's alley, but alas, we cannot get them out of the library.

Date: 2011-09-20 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
Oh no! Are they not available where you are??

This is totally random I know, but I actually have a spare copy of The School at the Chalet (book one) which I would be happy to post to you?? The Chalet School are such lovely school stories, if a bit old fashioned now of course.

Date: 2011-09-20 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jelazakazone.livejournal.com
Well, they are not available at the library. Don't know how they are selling used. DH has bought DD1 a whole series of books on ebay. They are mysteries. Judy Bolton.

DD1 loves old fashioned books! Such a generous offer, to ship me a book. Can I pay the postage? I'll pm you my address:D

Date: 2011-09-20 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
It might actually be the first TWO books, I shall check. When I was at uni I found one of those double publications in a charity shop for 50p and, since all my books were at home, I bought it anyway for re-reading.

PM me your address and I shall stick it in the post! I'm fairly sure it's in my book box in the garage :)

Date: 2011-09-20 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jelazakazone.livejournal.com
I've sent you a PM. Hope it gets to you. I'm not getting any comment notifications at the moment. I am not sure PMs are working for me either.

Date: 2011-09-20 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xaritomene.livejournal.com
Ha! I read some of these books and lost interest after, I think, Carola rocked up and generally made a nuisance of herself. I liked Jo and little Robin best! :D

But these and the Enid Blyton stories combined to make me feel horribly betrayed when, age 9, I rocked up at boarding school. Where was my mitagassen? And my midnight feasts? And the pranks played on teachers? Nowhere, that's where. Betrayal of the highest kind.

Date: 2011-09-20 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
Wait... they LIED about boarding school?? When I was about that age I was desperate to go to the Chalet School, I wanted to learn 3 languages and do crafts and play epic epic pranks (this is where my School Nemeses fic gets its inspiration from! These and Enid Blyton's school stories of course). The only thing that used to confuse me was all the slang! Half of it didn't even sound like slang to little common West-Country me, I couldn't see anything wrong with 'smashing', my gran said smashing!

Date: 2011-09-20 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xthursdaynextx.livejournal.com
I liked these books when I was a kid. Up until I realised every single one had pretty much the exact same plot - new girl turns up with some kind of issue, friction with the other girls, some kind of adventure happens - she gets lost up a mountain, usually - then she fits right in with the rest of the school in the end XD

And didn't Joey have about thirty children, including twins and triplets in the end? How did she get time to write?

Date: 2011-09-20 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
She had 11 kids! Two sets of twins, one set of triplets and then singles. God knows how she managed to not only write the books but also travel all over the place and stay so heavily involved with the school :D

The plots were very similar, it's true, and the girls all married doctors, but I think I found that quite comforting when I was little. Really awful things rarely happened and all the girls found their place in the school and made friends <3

Date: 2011-09-20 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eviltish.livejournal.com
Ooh, I went through a really mad 'boarding school' phase when I was a kid. I desperately wanted to go and was obsessed with the Malory Towers and St Clare's books by Enid Blyton. I did read some of The Chalet School books but then got distracted by the Trebizon series by Anne Digby (one of the characters was called Tish which is where I got my school nickname from ;)).

Date: 2011-09-20 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eviltish.livejournal.com
Also, I fangirl Val McDermid like crazy. Amazing author. :)

Date: 2011-09-20 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
She was so funny in that documentary. It was great to see her talking to professors of law and fellow crime writers and they were all fangirling the Chalet School!

Date: 2011-09-20 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
TREBIZON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With all the tennis! And Rebecca and her boyfriend Robbie <3 <3

I could never get hold of the later books in that series. I still wish I could read them now. One day I will seek them out properly. There's a publisher near me called 'Girls Gone By' which republishes out of print works (with permission of course) including the Chalet School and all the old Sadler's Wells and Enid Blyton stories.

Date: 2011-09-20 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamie15.livejournal.com
Aww, these books sound so lovely :) I wish I could read them, just to see what stereotypes British children are fed about us Austrians :D! But alas they don't have it in our libraries :/

But holy moley - 58 books?! That's quite a lot! Are they very long? The author must certainly have enjoyed writing them just as much as you enjoyed reading them :)!

Date: 2011-09-20 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
Each one is about 200 pages I suppose?

Things I learned about Austrians from The Chalet School: They are all noble, upstanding citizens who thought an English education was more healthy for their girls, because Austrian education was much harder. They are deeply religious, they take lemon or rum in their tea (Joey was VERY SHOCKED at this). Um... they are all very obedient to their parents (or the Mensches were anyway) and then to their husbands, oh and they have kaffee und kuchen every day with lots of honey and nut cakes :D Also they say 'Gruss Gott' to EVERYONE EVER.

Date: 2011-09-24 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jamie15.livejournal.com
Sorry for the loooong hiatus in posting this - like I said, I'm at my grandma's right now, and was only able to steal a couple of minutes on my aunt's computer just now to write a few replies and not feel totally guilty!

... I say Grüß Gott :) - though nowadays most people say 'Hallo'. Boooring! :) What's pretty widespread as well though is 'Servus'. I don't know if you've heard of that one ... :)

That's a rather idyllic image of Austria though :)! What a shame that I basically live in Vienna and never got to drink rum with my tea ...! Must be something local in Tyrol!

Date: 2011-09-20 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
I should mention that these books were begun in the 1920s and continue to the 1960s, so everything is very old-fashioned! The writer adored the Tirol and seemed to know the whole area very well from her descriptions.

The Chalet School internet community informs me that,

Elinor Brent-Dyer appears to have gone on holiday to the Austrian Tirol in 1924, a fairly cheap place then, and stayed in a village called Pertisau, on the side of the lake Achensee. These became the Briesau and Tiernsee of the series. Many of the real names of nearby places were kept, e.g. Buchau, Scholastika and Innsbruck.
Edited Date: 2011-09-20 09:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-09-20 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
Also also, there are loads of references to local festivals and traditions, and I remember all the girls going to the Passion Play at Oberammergau.

Date: 2011-09-21 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonicbookmark.livejournal.com
I haven't a clue about these books!
Are they anything like Nancy Drew (I mean time period, style, etc.), which I love?

Date: 2011-09-24 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
I haven't actually read Nancy Drew so I am not sure. The Chalet School books were written between the 1920s and the 1960s and follow the establishment and growth of a fictional girls' boarding school, first in Austria, then in Switzerland and Wales (during World War Two). There are some characters that feature all the way through, but most books are centred on a new girl or mistress and their adventures as they settle in and become 'Chalet School Girls'. They're very much of their time, but still very popular I think :)

Date: 2011-09-24 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magog-83.livejournal.com
The girls often end up solving mysteries by accident, or playing epic pranks, or getting lost in the mountains - there's even a Princess who attends and gets kidnapped by her mad uncle!

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